Q: CAN THE TORO 621 QZE MODEL38459 FIT IN THE BACK OF A SUV LIKE THE HONDA PILOT OR JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE? by Anonymous from New York on August 15, 2011
A: If you fold down the upper handle, any of the Toro single stage snow blowers will fit in the back of an SUV. The upper handle is easily folder down by simply loosening a knob on either side of the handle. by Kriss, Product Expert
Overall Rating
4.4
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July 18, 2011
Kevin Pittsburgh, PA
Toro 221QR
After reading all the reviews here, I felt the need to give my story. I am a landscaper who during the PA winters clears 50 driveways a day. I send out 2 crews(1 guy with shovel, 1 guy with Toro). This machine is absolutely the best for the money. My guys take them in and out the truck easily, up and down steps, and on to customers decks.
Anybody who is complaining that the chute freezes or recoil has broken must be leaving the blowers OUTSIDE. My machines are garage kept and have never had a problem, and if you do the math each machine is doing more snow in 1 day than these other machines are doing in a year.
So take it from me, the machine is the best all around snowblower for snowfalls under 12". If you consistently get 20" then by all means get a larger 2 stage blower.
After reading all the reviews here, I felt the need to give my story. I am a landscaper who during the PA winters clears 50 driveways a day. I send out 2 crews(1 guy with shovel, 1 guy with Toro). This machine is absolutely the best for the money. My guys take them in and out the truck easily, up and down steps, and on to customers decks.
Anybody who is complaining that the chute freezes or recoil has broken must be leaving the blowers OUTSIDE. My machines are garage kept and have never had a problem, and if you do the math each machine is doing more snow in 1 day than th... more
June 24, 2011
Bonnie Mayville, NY
Great snowblower
This is the second model of this type that I have purchased. The first was for myself. With winters in New York state as they are, I needed something really reliable and easy to use. This is exactly the ticket. Great to start and blows snow so good it actually makes it fun to have it snow and use it.
The second one I purchased for my 84 year old father. He found it a pleasure to use, he liked mine so well that I bought him his own. I highly recommend this for the blowing power to remove the snow and the ease of use. I can hardly wait for another winter to start.
March 20, 2011
Tom Waterloo, WI
GREAT SNOWBLOWER
I've had a Toro for over 30 years. My last Toro I bought in 1994, and it's still running & starts on the first pull. Wanted a second Toro so my boys can help out. The 38583 is an outstanding machine. No problems starting it and it really makes quick work of any snowfall and man it throws the snow! The only problem I have with it is my boys and I fight over who gets to use it instead of the older machine.
February 09, 2011
Renee Cahill Centerport, NY
SpringAhead
Ordered the Toro 221QR snow blower just in time for the next big snow storm we had in January...had 17.5 inches of snow. First time we tried our new snow blower, it was a blessing. Started right up....17 inches was no problem...we even used it on the deck...worked great.
First time this year we don't care if it snows, now that we have the Toro to blow the snow. I ordered it on a Thursday night and received it on Monday..Fast Fast fast. Thanks Snow Blowers Direct...Great Service
February 09, 2011
Terry Oklahoma City, OK
1st Snowblower
The last 2 years in Oklahoma we have had some heavy snows. Nobody locally keeps snow blowers in stock so after the Feb 1 snow I decided to buy one. I had used an 18 years old Toro that I borrowed from a man who moved down from Wisconsin. It worked fine but it was too small for my 100' X 20' drive.
I received 221 today and the machine is fantastic. We received another 6" today and I drove down to FedEx when they opened to get the machine. Now all the neighbors want to hire me to clear their drive. I'm going to do it to pay for the machine.
January 23, 2011
Todd Sarnia, IL
Toro 221QR
I've owned my 221qr snowblower for approx 3 years now, runs just like the day I got it. Well worth the little investment of cash.
Easy to lift so you can go do the in-laws driveways as well. Shoots the snow over a 5 foot fence with ease. Other than a couple hard starts over the complete season I am very pleased with the machine. The only drawback I can see is the cost of the replacement paddles $40 each here in Canada.
January 19, 2011
Scott Toms River, NJ
No better way to buy a Snow Blower!
I purchased the Toro based on a recommendation from a friend. I shopped around and found Snow Blowers Direct had a decent price and a great reputation. Buying from this site was very easy.
My snow blower arrived in 2 days. This thing works great, it’s easy to start and operate. The best part is my wife thinks its fun and has volunteered to clear the driveway every time it snows!! I can stay inside and keep warm.
January 11, 2011
Stefan Aurora, IL
Very good snow blower for a good price
I love this snow blower as it is easy to handle and for Chicago Winters very good even when we have heavy snow. Even my 13 year old son and my wife can operate it.
December 20, 2010
Mark Plainfield, IL
Poor Chute Control Design causes Freeze-up
I've owned this snow blower since Nov. 2007 and the chute control routinely freezes during the winter season making it impossible to rotate the chute (even manually). Part of the control cable is external from the sheath that attaches to the Quick Shoot blue handle. This collects moisture because in blowing snow conditions it gets covered with ice and snow. Moving the handle back and forth releases some of that water into the cable sheath and after several uses, the water builds up. You may start using your snow blower, but if the temperatures are in the single digits (Fahrenheit scale), the water in the cable will freeze and the chute can't be moved until it is thawed. But even if you thaw out the cable, unless you can force the water out or add some anti-freeze to it, it will just re-freeze again and again. Sometimes my garage is above freezing and sometimes it goes below, so often I go out to find the chute frozen is some position. I have learned to move the chute fully to one side or the other before storing the snow blower back in the garage, so I can use it somewhat next snowfall. Never store it with the chute pointing directly forward. Toro's 800 number is useless and they don't seem to have a work-around for what I consider to be a serious design flaw.
I've owned this snow blower since Nov. 2007 and the chute control routinely freezes during the winter season making it impossible to rotate the chute (even manually). Part of the control cable is external from the sheath that attaches to the Quick Shoot blue handle. This collects moisture because in blowing snow conditions it gets covered with ice and snow. Moving the handle back and forth releases some of that water into the cable sheath and after several uses, the water builds up. You may start using your snow blower, but if the temperatures are in the single digits (Fahrenheit scale), t... more
December 13, 2010
Glen Denver Area, CO
Great machine
I bought one of these at end of the '08 snow season. Love, love, love the Quick Chute feature.
As others have mentioned, following the provided instructions (i.e., Full choke, primer twice) I had a difficult time getting the bugger to start. I live at altitude (Denver area). I've found that half choke and one push of the primer yields a start on the first pull. If you're having trouble, I'd suggest you try some different approach rather than the Toro "gospel". Some combination of - No choke, half choke, full choke, one prime, two prime -- Lots of choices.
I had tried a SnowJoe electric. Very disappointed. I couldn't really believe the difference. 5-6 ft with the electric and 25-30 ft with the Toro. Had to go over the same area twice with the electric (due to "spitting" out the front) and only once with the Toro. All things considered, the Toro cut my blower time by 75% or so as compared to the electric.
The only "disappointment" I've had is the 2-stroke "stench". Once I use up the oil I have, I'm going to try some full synthetic 2-stroke oil and lean the 50-1 to 75-1 or maybe leaner. (They claim 100-1 is best, but I'm a little spooked at half the oil.)
I bought one of these at end of the '08 snow season. Love, love, love the Quick Chute feature.
As others have mentioned, following the provided instructions (i.e., Full choke, primer twice) I had a difficult time getting the bugger to start. I live at altitude (Denver area). I've found that half choke and one push of the primer yields a start on the first pull. If you're having trouble, I'd suggest you try some different approach rather than the Toro "gospel". Some combination of - No choke, half choke, full choke, one prime, two prime -- Lots of choices.
You still need to have a 2-stage available for the heavy, slushy driveway cleanup.
Also, the pull-start handle broke on my first below zero start-up, and I could not believe how cheaply this important part was manufactured. In addition, my Quick Stick got jammed , had to thaw it out to release it.
I took the blower apart to inspect the cable assembly and gears, but whatever water got into the unit could not be removed easily. A hair drier did the trick.
I know that they try to save weight on these blowers, but a few more ounces of plastic here and there may be beneficial.
Otherwise, these units get my vote strictly for the Quick Stick feature. I hope they got a patent on that.
You still need to have a 2-stage available for the heavy, slushy driveway cleanup.
Also, the pull-start handle broke on my first below zero start-up, and I could not believe how cheaply this important part was manufactured. In addition, my Quick Stick got jammed , had to thaw it out to release it.
I took the blower apart to inspect the cable assembly and gears, but whatever water got into the unit could not be removed easily. A hair drier did the trick.
I know that they try to save weight on these blowers, but a few more ounces of plastic here and ... more
January 08, 2010
Bill Milwaukee, WI
Great snowblower, concern on the engine resolved
I bought this snowblower in Nov of 2009. I've used it three times and while it starts, it has never started on the first or second pull. With the engine primed and fully choked, it takes 4-5 pulls in order for it to start. I sent a message to Toro today as it should be covered under their warranty.
Once started, this machine is a beast. We had 10 inches of snow in WI this morning and it was throwing it a good 25-30 feet - just amazing.
If you're in a tighter area with a lot of turns, definitely go for the zip deflector and the quick chute control. With the ease of adjustments, you can put the snow wherever you want.
The self propulsion system on it is quite remarkable too. It really pulls the machine through the snow with little effort from the operator. My only concern is that it might be a little too powerful for my wife. Nonetheless, all you have to do is lift the paddles off the ground and you have full control again.
This can easily clear a large driveway, sidewalks and patio. I have neighbors who have larger areas to clear and purchased much larger two-stage blowers. This Toro would easily have suited their need.
Apart from the engine not starting on the first or second pull (or even third pull), this is a 5 star machine.
SBD RESPONDS: You may also wish to contact Toro at their toll free, tech support number: 888-384-9939.
1/12/10 UPDATE: I spoke with Toro and they informed me that if the temperature is around 30 degrees you should not prime the engine and only set it to half choke.
I tried this and it started right up. The owner's manual tells you to prime twice and fully choke the machine, which just floods it. Toro should update their documentation to reflect this.
That being said, I give the machine a 5 and not a 3.
I bought this snowblower in Nov of 2009. I've used it three times and while it starts, it has never started on the first or second pull. With the engine primed and fully choked, it takes 4-5 pulls in order for it to start. I sent a message to Toro today as it should be covered under their warranty.
Once started, this machine is a beast. We had 10 inches of snow in WI this morning and it was throwing it a good 25-30 feet - just amazing.
If you're in a tighter area with a lot of turns, definitely go for the zip deflector and the quick chute control. With the ... more
December 31, 2009
Eric Appleton, WI
This Toro rules
I have owned 3 snowblowers, all single stage. I received the first one, a Toro 5hp, about 13 years ago and it was great.
I sold it to a friend and bought a Honda single stage 5hp. It was fine, but today I used this Toro 38583 and I am gonna get one ASAP.
NO COMPARISON to any other.
February 27, 2009
Scott Aberdeen, SD
Poorly designed snowblower
I purchased this unit two months ago. It works good when it runs however the recoil start freezes up and will not engage.
Additionally, the chute control also freezes up, leaving it completely inoperative. The Toro dealer has little advice or solutions to fix it other than to bring it inside and let it thaw out. This is not practical for something designed for winter use.
The Toro 800 number is completely automated, so there is no way to opt out to speak to an actual employee. Save your money, a shovel is more reliable.
SBD RESPONDS: You can email Toro Customer Service directly by pasting this link into your browser-https://homeownersolutions.toro.com/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=212&PageID=235&cached=true&mode=2&userID=19461
I purchased this unit two months ago. It works good when it runs however the recoil start freezes up and will not engage.
Additionally, the chute control also freezes up, leaving it completely inoperative. The Toro dealer has little advice or solutions to fix it other than to bring it inside and let it thaw out. This is not practical for something designed for winter use.
The Toro 800 number is completely automated, so there is no way to opt out to speak to an actual employee. Save your money, a shovel is more reliable.
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